Tube in South East London

There are very few Tube lines in South East London; see this real map of where they are: http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap. So SE London hardly features on the Tube map which most people carry around in their heads. It is therefore much more difficult to work out how to travel around in SE London and especially how to connect with the other rail transport systems. In fact there are good ways of doing this but because the marketing of the links is so poor they are not easily understood. Some of the Overground rail services in SE London are, to the user, almost part of the same system as the Tube, where they interconnect very well like at London Bridge, Blackfriars & Victoria. This News section includes news posts which relate to getting transport strategy to address the need for better integration of the Tube and Overground services in SE London, or the extension of the Tube itself into SE London, or of the publicity for them in better maps.

Local action needed to extend Bakerloo line

Discussion on blog of ways to get the extension to happen.   December 27th, 2011 by James Barber Liberal Democrat Councillor for East Dulwich
The Bakerloo line is the only tube line considered to still have spare capacity. So it could be extended. It already extends significantly to the north so a southern extension deeper into Southwark is the obvious direction and South London has very poor public transport.

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Extending the Bakerloo: on the wishlist only

From London Reconnections  White Knights and Wishlists: Northern and Bakerloo Line Extensions 23 January, 2012 by John Bull  link to full article

It has become a much publicised fact that the Bakerloo Line is the only one of London’s Tubes that currently has spare capacity. Given this, it is perhaps no surprise that there has been much talk of its extension.
TfL have confirmed that, as it stands, the best business case would see an extension to Hayes, with one of two routes likely (and almost certainly not Lewisham’s suggested scheme):
1) Hayes via Old Kent and Lewisham
2) Hayes via Peckham and Camberwell Green

TfL Planning Director Michelle Mix, speaking in front of the London Assembly Transport Committee last week, admitted that of these the first option had a far stronger business case due to the inclusion of New Cross.
Despite a strong business case and spare capacity, though, it is financing that once again means that a Bakerloo extension is currently a non-starter.

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Bakerloo Line extension in TfL “list of future schemes”

 
London SE1 Community Website 17 January 2012   A senior Transport for London official has told a City Hall committee that plans to extend the Bakerloo line south of Elephant & Castle are "not high up the priority list" despite the idea being mentioned in the Mayor's official transport strategy.

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Network Rail & TfL support idea of Bakerloo Line extension into SE London

The London and South East RUS (Rail Utilisation Strategy) published in July 2011  indicates, in section 8.6 on page 159, that both Network Rail and TfL believe that there is a business case for the extension of the Bakerloo Line into SE London through Southwark. They have also indicated that this is not likely before 2020. But it can take many years to plan major new rail projects so planning needs to continue now. The RUS says:

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campaign to Save our Services to Victoria

From SRUG (Southwark Rail Users' Group)
 
Please join the campaign to Save our Services to Victoria.
EMAIL THE TRANSPORT MINISTER & THE LONDON MAYOR
SRUG is asking rail users of Nunhead, Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill stations to email the Transport Minister, the Mayor of London and their elected representatives to say something like:

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Responses to the draft L&SE RUS

Here are links to the responses to Network Rail's consultation on their draft 20 year RUS (rail utilisation strategy) for the railways in London and SE England, which are especially relevant to our SRUG interests: 

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Bakerloo Tube link into SE London

From SLP 7 September 2010: Lewisham Council are considering the issues for extending the Bakerloo Line into SE London. There are several possibilities outlined in the Lewisham report. Even though it would cost over £2bn, it is not out of the question. It is a long term project and planning has to start now. Read article... or Read report (part 1part 2)

Boris Transport Plans on ITV London Tonight

from ITV London Tonight 12 October   

click here for broadcast clip: http://www.itv.com/london/boristransportplans57650/

THIS IS FROM THE TRAM FACEBOOK PAGE:  INDOMIE Thursday 15 October 2009 2.50pm
Some of you may have seen this week’s announcement of the Mayors new Transport Strategy for London (not to mention today’s steep bus fare increases too!)

You can read the document at http://mts.tfl.gov.uk/default.aspx but I’m afraid there is very little in there about South East London and no mention of the Cross River Tram at all [or the South London Line]! There is now a vague mention of a possible extension of the Bakerloo Line sometime after 2020, but this is subject to further research. It’s an option that has been looked at in the past and ruled out on cost and technical grounds – hence the preference for the Tram. There is a real danger now that our needs will be pushed further down the list of priorities as any Bakerloo extension is unfunded and could well fall foul to a change of Mayor in the future. We seem to be going around in circles!

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Tram & trainline disappear in Mayor's new transport strategy

Southwark News 15 October 2009  John Prendergast

Another blow was dealt to transport users in Southwark this week when the Cross River Tram (CRT) and the South London Line (SLL) were omitted from the Mayor of London's transport strategy.

Boris Johnson's transport plans for the next 20 years did not make a single mention of either project, suggesting both are far from being on his radar. The CRT, which consisted of 16.5km of tramway commencing at Euston and making its way down to Waterloo, branching off towards Peckham and Brixton, now looks like it will be removed from his agenda altogether. This is despite a vociferous and well run campaign backing it. Those in favour of retaining the SLL are currently attempting to make their voices heard at TfL, amongst other bodies.

The minor crumb of comfort for transport users in Southwark, as reported by the 'News' in March, is that the extension to the Bakerloo Line extension will be more seriously explored, although any movement on the project will not take place until at least 2020.

A spokesman stated details of extended routes were not available at this stage. He added: "The Mayor is well aware that Londoners living in the south of the capital are crying out for more tube services and research has shown extending the Bakerloo Line south from Elephant & Castle could have serious benefits in terms of regeneration and access to jobs.   read more...

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