This page is the archive of the campaign to Save the South London Line (SLL).
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In the Spring of 2009, SRUG joined with the Clapham Transport Users’ Group, the Lambeth Public Transport Group, the two major hospitals - King's And SLAM, all local elected representatives, and the four main political parties, to form the campaign to Save Our South London Line.
Public Meeting 30th September 2009
We held a historic and very successful Public Meeting on Wed 30th Sep 6.30pm for 7pm-9pm at Institute of Psychiatry, 16 De Crespigny Park, Camberwell.
Year by year cuts to services into central London
All the stations covered by the Southwark Rail Users Group (SRUG) - Peckham Rye, Denmark Hill, East Dulwich, Nunhead, Queens Rd Peckham, South Bermondsey - have direct services into central London through the trains going to the central London stations London Bridge, Victoria, and Blackfriars. The trains to these central London stations take only a short time eg from Peckham Rye, between 8 and 16 minutes. So within that time rail users can be on the Tube - one of 6 lines - Victoria, Circle, District, Northern, Bakerloo, and Jubilee. This is the nearest inner SE London can get to being on the Tube.
But it depends on having enough trains coming in from the south from various directions to make this possible. The services to London Bridge and Victoria are being salami sliced year by year and on the way to ruining the virtual Tube service. The cut to the South London Line is the latest of these bit by bit cuts. SRUG has joined with the Clapham Transport Users’ Group, the Lambeth Public Transport Group, all local elected representatives, and representatives of the four main political parties, to form the campaign to Save Our South London Line. See this flyer [62] for facts on all the services from each station.
Decision
As a result of the shocking news in March 2009 of the secret deal between TfL and DfT to axe the planned Victoria-Bellingham service (via Denmark Hill & Peckham Rye), local rail user groups have come together with the major hospitals at Denmark Hill and local elected representatives to form the campaign to Save Our South London Line. The latest decision, like the one taken in 2008 to axe the Victoria-Denmark Hill-London Bridge service in 2012, shows the low priority the rail industry gives to our inner south London direct connections into central London. We have to change that before 2012.
The shock was to discover that TfL have decided without any consultation to increase the rail links east-west between Clapham Junction to Shoreditch, at the literal expense of the direct services between inner south London and central London. The funds for the Victoria-Bellingham train, via Clapham High St, Denmark hill, Peckham Rye and Nunhead to central London, have been switched to pay for part of the new orbital railway line, ie the East London Line extension between Canary Wharf and Clapham Junction. TfL are justifying this by saying that more people want to travel east-west than into central London.
Evidence?
They have published no evidence supporting this, and the campaign believes the opposite is probably the case, and that more people want to travel into central London than out to Clapham Junction and Shoreditch. The new orbital east-west links created by the East London Line extension are a welcome addition to the inner south London rail services. But they cannot be viewed as TfL does as a better value replacement for the direct trains into central London.
As a result of the outcry since this secret decision was uncovered, TfL have said thay will review the south London services. The campaign needs to work to ensure that all the stakeholders, including the rail user groups and the elected representatives, are fully involved in the review to ensure that the right questions are asked and the right information sought to answer them.
East London Line Extension (ELLX2) to Clapham Junction
The East London line ihas been extended to New Cross and Croydon and opened in June 2010. The latest decision to switch funding from the inner south London services to Victoria is to build the East London Line Extension phase 2 (ELLX2) from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction via Queens Road Peckham, Peckham Rye, Denmark Hill, Clapham High St and Wandsworth Road. This would open in 2012, and the South London Line to London Bridge and Victoria would be closed. TfL say that more people want to travel east-west in inner south London than to London Bridge & Victoria. The Campaign welcomes the extra service east-west but disagrees that it should be provided by reducing services to central London.
The ELLX2 has been promoted as bringing the Tube to inner south London and especially Queens Road, Peckham Rye, and Denmark Hill. But the ELL is NOT THE TUBE. It is a suburban orbital Overground rail service run by TfL, linking with the North London Line. It is the rail equivalent of the road North and South Circulars, and not about getting people in and out of central London. If you want to get to east London or south west London the ELLX will be a boon. But if you want to get to central London it will make the journey worse because it is replacing some of those services.
Trains to Blackfriars
In 2009, the train service to Blackfriars from Nunhead, Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill was extended to St Pancras International and beyond. This has been a wonderful improvement in our poor connections to central London. It is a return of the service that was cut several years ago. It has happened because Blackfriars station is being rebuilt and there are at the moment no platforms for services to terminate, and turn round and come back. What will happen when the station is re-opened? We hope the current campaign will make sure that our message about the need for these links into central London will have been thoroughly accepted by then, when the new Blackfriars station is ready, in 2011, so we don’t lose this valuable cross-river through train service.
Links:
[1] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A4%20fact%20poster%20by%20stations%20mtg%20version_2.doc
[2] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/useful-map-showing-sll-ell-and-victoria-bellingham-services
[3] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/South%20London%20Line%20A%20Vital%20Link.pdf
[4] http://www.bellenden.net/rail-cuts#news
[5] http://www.bellenden.net/../../../../../srug/news/useful-map-showing-sll-ell-and-victoria-bellingham-services
[6] mailto:SRUG@southwarkrailusers.net
[7] http://www.southwarkrailusers.net
[8] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5610272863&ref=ts
[9] http://tinyurl.com/SouthLondonLine
[10] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A6%20Peckham%20Rye_2.pdf
[11] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A6%20Denmark%20Hill_4.pdf
[12] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A6%20Queens%20Road_4.pdf
[13] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A6%20South%20Bermondsey_4.pdf
[14] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A6%20Clapham%20%26%20Wandsworth.pdf
[15] http://www.bellenden.net/../../../../../sites/default/files/TfL_London%20TravelWatch%20Stakeholder%20Update%20-%20SLL%20study%20%28for%201%20June%202010%29%20%5BCompatibility%20Mode%5D.pdf
[16] http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/15403.aspx
[17] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/tfl-review-stakeholder-meeting-24-november-2009
[18] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/tfl-recognises-need-central-london-links-south-london-line-stations
[19] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/LateMotionSouthLondonLine.docA_.ps_.pdf
[20] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.11.11%20SLLDeputationwithBoris1%20redcd.jpg
[21] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.11.27%20letter%20SLP%20redcd%20IMG.jpg
[22] http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn/news.cfm?id=45041&searchword=south%20london%20line
[23] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/Mayor%27s%20QT%2018%20Nov%2009%20url.rtf
[24] http://www.bellenden.net/category/srug-topic/media-reports
[25] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/public-meeting-wednesday-30-september-2009
[26] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.09.30%20A4%20poster.pdf
[27] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.09.30%20A6%20flier.pdf
[28] http://www.yourlocallondon.com/editors-blog/east-dulwich/2009/06/26/tessa-jowell-and-harriet-harman-attend-rally-at-denmark-hill-to-fight-rail-cuts/
[29] http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7545056&id=656460044#/album.php?page=1&aid=276724&id=656460044
[30] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.09.18%20SLP%20redcd%20IMG.jpg
[31] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/boris-agrees-south-london-line-meeting
[32] http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/00,news,16266,185,00.htm
[33] http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn/news.cfm?id=45056&searchword=south%20london%20line
[34] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/success-%E2%80%93-tfl-review-cover-london-bridge
[35] http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/document/3864/get
[36] http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/news.php?id=670
[37] http://www.bellenden.net/srug/news/30-september-meeting-maps-fact-flyers
[38] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/0910.02%20SLP%20public%20meeting%204%20redcd%20IMG.jpg
[39] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/09.10.08%20SNews%20JS%20Qs%20rdcd%20IMG.jpg
[40] mailto:theresa.villiers@dft.gsi.gov.uk
[41] mailto:Mayor@london.gov.uk
[42] mailto:harmanh@parliament.uk
[43] mailto:jowellt@parliament.uk
[44] mailto:HughesSH@parliament.uk
[45] mailto:Hoeyk@parliament.uk
[46] mailto:valerie.shawcross@london.gov.uk
[47] mailto:caroline.pidgeon@london.gov.uk
[48] mailto:Jenny.Jones@london.gov.uk
[49] mailto:peter.john@southwark.gov.uk
[50] mailto:veronica.ward@southwark.gov.uk
[51] mailto:stephen.govier@southwark.gov.uk
[52] mailto:mark.glover@southwark.gov.uk
[53] mailto:nick.dolezal@southwark.gov.uk
[54] mailto:Fiona.Colley@SOUTHWARK.GOV.UK
[55] mailto:sunil.chopra@southwark.gov.uk
[56] mailto:althea.smith@southwark.gov.uk
[57] mailto:fiona.colley@southwark.gov.uk
[58] mailto:letters@slp.co.uk
[59] mailto:letters@southwarknews.org
[60] http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk
[61] mailto:Tim.Bellenger@londontravelwatch.org.uk
[62] http://www.bellenden.net/sites/default/files/A4%20fact%20poster%20by%20stations%20mtg%20version_1.doc